Raised Beds and False Economies
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This is great! Thanks for the cost comparison. We've just been using hilled up raised beds for the last three years, but every time the chickens or cats get into the sides of them, we have to rebuild them. I've been coveting sides.
Your raised beds look great! I agree about the composite materials. We started building our raised beds last year, and vetoed the trex-like materials as they lack any real structural strength. Here we have the problems of a LOT of moisture as we're close to the coast, and termites abound as we're surrounded by woodland. Fir just doesn't last more than a couple of years here, so we went the redwood-route as it's local and sustainably harvested. You're right though, in regards to work to construct, raised beds don't require any sort of herculean effort to build, it's even fun!
Seonaid – Thanks – and I totally agree about sides! We've experimented with hilled up beds and always found them lacking. We used them for squashes and zucchini last season, things that like to trail and sprawl. But it was much harder to maintain paths and get in to harvest without squishing something. And we don't even have chickens (yet)…
Great post. Yet another well thought out and researched one. You are amazing! Thanks.
Just to provide my experiences, for pressure treated wood, you cannot buy arsenic treated wood anymore. While copper isn't great, it's much better than arsenic, and in this weather, I'll take 10-15 years over 3-4 anyday.
As for replacing rotting beds, I can't fathom it being as easy as your experience, especially for my 15 inch tall beds and light fluffy growing medium. It'd be all over the place. What a mess!
That said, I agree with your conclusions.
Great post! Thanks
Sinfonian our oldest Hem/Fir beds will be 6 yrs this summer. We have had to replace 2 of 11 of them due to rot, and most likely 2-3 more will come due at the end of this season. Our beds are also tall – the back ones are a double stack of 2×10"s, so total height about 18 inches. Your soil may well be loser than ours – the old beds have compacted through rain, etc – but we found that replacing the bed railings while the soil was relatively moist and using a flat-end shovel to kind of "squish" the soil inward before we removed the boards kept everything in place pretty well. We were surprised about this, expecting a much bigger mess. But of course everyone's milage will vary. :) Thanks for your experience, I appreciate your comments! :)
Great to hear. That would make replacement easier! Cool. Thanks!
My concern with this is that you are consuming so much lumber. You can try to get FSC lumber, but that gets pricy.
I would recommend starting by trying to find cedar cast offs on freecycle or craiglists, or talking to contractors who make decks. Getting long lengths won't be easy, but getting the posts and end lengths wouldn't be too bad at all! I am using ALL leftovers to build my beds, but I'm lucky in that they're all scraps from my renovations.
Just another take!
wolf-great idea, I think if you are or know a contractor this idea is definitely worth a shot!
Great post, we just got 'sides' this year and I'm really looking forward to the increased yeilds and ease of harvesting. We found, on Craiglist, an amazing deal ($0.89 p/l.f.) on 14' lengths. They have more knots and the ends needed to be trimmed, but boy is it BEAUTIFUL!! Checking around and having time on your side (we bought ours in the middle of winter when yards are wanting to clear out as much room as possible
You have an important view point. However you need to do it with a view to where you live. Here in Western Australia white ants just love to be given a free meal of nice wood! Here we use recycled roof tiles standing upright. And in southern New Zealand where we also did raised beds, the wood has to be treated agains rot, otherwise the wood only lasted two seasons, well one and a half before they started to collapse. The treatment includes a healthy dose of arsenic – well it kept the wood healthier, not so good for anything it touched though.
Harriet – Great point. When people figure out the best way to go for themselves, they need to consider the economics of their particular area, both in terms of money, time, material longevity, etc. Recycled roof tiles sound awesome – long lasting, I'll bet.
Hello there! Seconding Harriet's comment from the other side of Australia (Melbourne, in fact, where the termites also nibble away at anything tasty). We checked ebay for cheap tiles for about four months, before being able to buy 1000 slabs of terracotta, leftover from someone's renovation, for $20. It took a bit of digging and experimentation to get them to stand up in the earth (so much for "no dig garden bed"), but now that they're in, they're great.
Love the roof tile idea! Anyone tried cinder blocks?? I installed some stepped beds along my foundation this fall using them. Plans to fill the big holes with soil too for planting herbs and flowers.
amper – we built the worlds teenyist retaining wall with cinder blocks, backfilled the top layer of holes with garden soil and planted perpetual chard in the holes. The chard is doing great! Check out this cool modern cinder block planter; you could totally do something like this with edibles: http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/la/look/the-diy-modern-outdoor-succulent-planter-2-094477
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