Seeds For Beginners: Saving, Storing and Organizing Your Vegetable Seeds

I am getting a lot of questions about seeds right now. A friend came over to tour the garden and said she was thinking of using seed this year – a first for her. Another friend asked if she could use last year’s seeds.

Once you graduate past a few patio tomato plants (not that there is anything wrong with a few patio tomatoes, mind you) you’re going to have to deal with seeds. Here’s what you need to know about saving your purchased seed. Saving seeds from your own plants is a totally different topic, and maybe one day I’ll know enough to intelligently get into it. But for now, Vegetable Seeds For Beginners.

Why Seeds Instead of Starts?

Seeds are your friend. Some plants just do a lot better when sown directly outside because they hate it when people screw with their root system. Root vegetables, understandably, are like this. Most Cucurbitaceae (melon-type plants like – cucumbers, squashes, melons, etc.) are like this too. I have a dirty little contrarian secret about how I start cucurbits indoors for transplant but we can get to that later.

Beyond avoiding root disturbance, if you grow in any quantity you’ll save a manure-load of money growing from seed. Example: I see lettuce starts at my local, excellent nursery for $2.99 for 4 lettuce plants. A $1.79, 2 gram packet of lettuce holds between 1200 and 2400 lettuce seeds.

Let’s say you drop half your seed packet on the floor and get a 25% actual in-ground germination from the rest (we’re talking worst case scenario here, can you tell?). You’re still looking at a lettuce per-head cost of, oh, about seven-tenths of a penny instead of a per-head cost of about 75-cents. Now if my family of four and our various guests eat 2 heads of lettuce a day for 4 months (not at all improbable in my family) I’ll save about $90 by growing my lettuce from seed instead of starts.

These little things adds up. To put it in perspective, that $90 could buy you a pair of nice seed germination set-ups and still leave you $40 for a yard of good compost – delivered! Or it could more than cover the cost of Territorial Seed’s Victory Garden In A Bucket. Or, hey, it could just be $90 you don’t have to spend on anything.

Another reason to go with seeds is varietal options. People like options. In America our entire culture is built on the idea that people need and deserve to have as many options as possible. Why else would we think we need 500 channels of TV? Well, seeds give you options. Seeds are like the freedom to choose between the World Rally Championship and the 24 Hours of Le Mans instead of being stuck with NASCAR, just because NASCAR has name recognition going for it.

At a nursery, even a good one, you’ll be hard pressed to find more than 3 or 4 types of bean starts. I love Helda Romano Beans, and I grow them every year. Even if I wanted to pay nursery start prices for that variety of bean, it wouldn’t be available to me.

But I’ll Never Use 2400 Lettuce Seeds This Year!

Not to fret, you don’t have to eat 2400 heads of lettuce this year! Although, if you are sowing seeds in broad swaths for cut and cut again crops like mesclun mixes, you might easily go through a seed packet of lettuce (or four) in a year. It’s possible – ask me how I know.

You can and should save your unused seed for the next year. Almost all newly purchased seed will be sufficiently fresh that you can continue to use it and expect adequate real-world germination for at least three years. There are some exceptions, and I’ll get to them in a minute.

For now, focus on that at least part…at least three years, and potentially a lot longer, depending on the seed we’re talking about and how it’s stored. Lettuce is viable in average storage conditions for five years. Five! In climate-considered storage, you might get 8 or even 10 years out of it, just for taking some simple steps to protect your seed. Nominal seed life for beets is four years. Squash also gets four years on paper but I have summer squash seed from 2005 that I’ll be using this year. I’ve tested it and it germinates with good vigor.

I said there were exceptions to this long-lived-seed bonanza. I have found parsnips and onions to be a bit touchy about seed freshness, with an “official” catalog expiration of 1 year. Generally that seed isn’t super expensive, so I’ll buy those two fresh annually or go 2 years at the most. For more details, check out this great table of seed viability.

Even if the waste and economic foolishness of throwing out good seed doesn’t move you to save your leftover seeds, consider this: sometimes seed crops fail and you just can’t get the seed you want. Sometimes there is a year when that one variety you absolutely can’t live without just doesn’t do well, and not enough viable seed can be brought to market to supply the demand. This happened a few years ago with a regionally popular winter squash called Sweet Meat. You could not find Sweet Meat seed anywhere. My neighbor, a long-time vegetable gardener, looked at me like I was handing her free $100 bills when I was able to pass a Sweet Meat start over the fence to her because I had some leftover seed from a previous year.

But I Don’t Have A Climate Controlled Seed Bunker!

Seeds are kind of like bears. Even when they are hibernating, they’re alive and drawing down their energy resources to stay that way. To keep them in tip-top shape the longest, you need to provide an environment that draws down their (and I can’t believe I’m using this phrase) “life energy” as little as possible. When you want your seed to use up all its stored energy growing into a little sproutlet, you give it warmth and moisture. To keep it from using any more energy than necessary, you do the opposite – you keep it cold and dry.

Can you think of a place in your home that is always cold and dry?

Yup, the refrigerator! An auto-defrost (aka “modern”) fridge is dry – have you ever noticed how something spilled on a fridge shelf just sort of dehydrates? (Oh – I’m the only one who doesn’t wipe those spills up immediately? Ok, moving on, then…) The refrigerator is also cold, ideally keeping the stuff inside it at around 38 degrees F.

These are great conditions for seed storage! Shove those seeds in the fridge.

Put My Lettuce Seeds Next To My Lettuce? Really?

Well, no. Keep your seeds out of the higher-humidity crisper drawer, where you most likely keep your produce. But any other shelf should do nicely. Keep your seeds organized so you can find what you need quickly when you are planting or starting something, and keep them protected in case your homemade ginger ale explodes in the fridge. Soaked seeds are bad.

Here’s how I store my seeds: it’s plastic in plastic, I’m just warning you, but it’s been the same plastic for about 7 years now, if that means anything. I turned a plastic bin that was kicking around the house into my seed vault. A shoe box, recipe card box or something similar would work well too.

I made dividers by gluing thick paper onto cardboard cut down to the right size and labeling them according to plant type: Legumes, Roots, Cucurbit, Brassica, etc. This was a purely functional labeling job. Check out Meg’s seed storage box over on Grow and Resist if you want something more visually fun for your seed storage.

Behind each plant type divider, I have sandwich baggies containing the different varieties of seed for each species. For example, behind “Brassica” I have a baggie of broccoli seed, a baggie of cauliflower seed, a baggie of collards seed, etc.

The whole contraption gets stored in the fridge. When I need a certain type of seed, I pull out that baggie, sow what I need, and return that baggie to the box when I’m done.

What I like about storing seed packets in plastic bags: I sow a lot in the rain. I shove seed packets in my pockets. I’ve been known to toss a packet onto the soil while I look around for my rake or my seed-spacing stick. In other words, I live in Seattle, moisture happens and I’m not perfect. A layer of plastic gives my paper seed packets some extra protection when I’m working outdoors. That said, it’s not like every seed packet gets put in its own bag. All the lettuce packets are in one bag, all the kale in another, all the tomatoes in yet another.

This system has kept my seeds in good shape for 7 or 8 years. Last fall I went through and tested and culled out my older seed. My oldest seeds were cabbage seeds from 2005. A germination test showed them at about 70% germination. I blended them into a saladini mix where less-than-perfect germination isn’t so critical and enjoyed the last of them as baby greens in a fall salad.

Don’t be intimidated by seeds. They’re no harder than buying starts, and in many ways they’re easier. Eventually you’ll find yourself so in love with them that you’ll probably have to build a database to keep track of all the seeds you have.

How do you use and store your vegetable seeds?

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  1. Oh! Storing them by family – so smart! I love it. Great overview.
    I don’t need to store in plastic because although I toss my seed packets all around too, usually the ground is all parched here. We keep seeds longer than their “expiration dates” too, but I just learned how to test germination rates. Ours are in a box down in the basement, filed alphabetically, basically like the one you linked to, without all the craftiness. Just a plain ol’ brown box.

    • Anisa- what I like about storing by family is when I’m starting cabbage I’m probably starting broccoli too. Tomatoes and peppers get started at the same time (usually). So its fast to get plants with similar seed starting requirements out all at once. :)

  2. We have kept our own runner beans and green beans, favas, potatoes, garlic, nasturtiums, pie plant, sunchokes, and grapes (but those last three are about propagation, along with our blackberries) going for many years, along with a few other things. In ’09 we had a kale on its second year go to seed spectacularly and were able to get about a cup and a half of kale seed from it — way more than we’d ever be able to grow, if we used every inch of the place — and so shared, and shared, and shared, till people reacted to us as if we were bringing zucchinis. We have some pumpkin seeds that crossed with zukes and raised zumpkins with good keeping qualities and better flavor than pumpkins — but it’s not a stable cross or I’d share. So ya never know!

  3. I keep them in a plastic bag, in the fridge. I make sure to clip shut the ones that are open, but that’s about the extent of the attention I give them.

  4. Thanks for the concise info! My tour of your garden was very inspiring and I have since received an order of seed and supplies from Territorial! I also now have my own catalog so I can get your back to you. I’m excited!

  5. My seed storage looks like yours on the inside, except I re-purposed an old plastic floppy disk storage box that has built-in dividers and is tall enough to hold my Territorial packets upright. After I got this year’s seed order last week, I had to get another container to hold them all; now the floppy disk box is for cool-season seeds and I have a second box for summer seeds. I’ve also started saving seed from my own tomato, bean, and pepper plants and found that those little brown coin envelopes work perfectly for seed storage and fit nicely in smaller containers for stashing in the fridge.

  6. I’m surprised you manage with just 1 shoebox-sized container. I am up to 4 of those containers and still running out of space. Granted, I save a ton of large seeds like sunflower, pea, beans.
    You must be pretty ruthless in throwing out old seed.
    I use silica gel that I glean from the packaging of electronics and the like to keep my seeds nice and dry.

  7. Erica – I started my tomato seeds on Saturday. I am sooo nervous. This is my first indoor seed experiment. I’m journaling and being all anal about the grow light. 2 days in driving The Husband nuts.

    Your reassurances here make me feel better. As will having all my seeds in a nice need organized little box.

    Next up: cucumber and lettuce. All my cuc packs say indoor starting is not recommended..? Care to comment on that? I’m so anxious I want to start everything now! now! now! I have to wait what? 5 more weeks? Gak!

  8. Ah, thanks for the shout out! It is time to get my decoupage on again. That box is still in commission but bursting at the seams! But it has worked so well –and makes me a little giddy whenever I see it =)
    I guess I should survey what I need and get ordering!

  9. We had a super organized shoe box of seeds last year, sorted by when they needed to be started. It was great, and I had hoped it was a system we’d keep using for years, but I’m afraid we outgrew it! Now, seeds are organized into canning jars on shelves in the basement. It doesn’t take much seed saving until envelopes just don’t cut it anymore!

  10. Nice essay! I keep mine in big glass jars with some leftover shoebox silica packs tossed in the bottom. Alas, there isn’t room in either my fridge or freezer to do cold storage. If we ever get a chest freezer, I’ll probably put a portion of the seed from my favorite varieties into long-term storage.

    Re: seed saving, if folks are interested, the best short introduction I’ve ever seen is the Seed Saving Zine from Adaptive:

    For a more thorough introduction, two books are fantastic: Suzanne Ashworth’s “Seed to Seed” and Carol Deppe’s “Breed Your Own Vegetable Varieties” (the latter I just pimped on Facebook, lol.) Ashworth’s book gives you the nitty gritty on *how* to save seed from each individual species; Deppe’s book is better at telling you *why* it’s done a certain way for any given species. Some light reading for your copious spare time ;-)

  11. You can find detailed seed saving information on the website of this 20 year-old non-profit:

  12. My seeds (both in tightly closed bags as open containers…) lie around the house, on tables, on the floor… yes, I am that unorganised. It really depends on the type of seed whether it will germinate or not, but of course proper storaging helps in avoiding major disasters like getting seeds lost for good :) However I am contemplating on setting up a long term seed bank in the basement to keep some kind of stock for the future.

  13. it’s always great to get a peak into someone else’s garden and see what they’re doing that you might like to try

  14. Would love to chat via email, I live in Tacoma (its october- where is our rain?)and am just learning to garden in my old age (early fifties). Love the information! Thank you!

  15. All I’ve ever heard about seeds is “cold and dry” but I never knew HOW cold.

    My worry with the fridge is condensation building up the instant I pulled it out.

    So far I’ve been keeping them in the basement. My main “trick” for saving seed is not trying to plant right out of the packet. Pour some seeds into a small shallow bowl, THEN plant. So much less waste or accidental drops, especially given how small so many seeds are.


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